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Jim
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Axle, Wheels, Tires, Disc Brakes, Springs

Merry Christmas!

Just had the above installed by Titan Guy's Crew...

BIG Difference!!!!

Before:

7000# Lippert Axles
7000# Springs with Plastic Bushings
Chinese Bearings
2.5" Electric Brakes
Goodyear 235/80R16 14-Ply, G Rated Tires

Leaking Grease seals; No stopping power; Improper leveling of the RV to TV

Now:

8000# Axles
8000# Springs with Brass Bushings
American Made Timken Bearings
Disc Brakes
Sailun 215/75R17.5 16-Ply, H Rated Tires

The crew started at 9am yesterday and completed the work by 4pm.

We then went for a "Test Drive"...

Before:

I have a 3500 Ram Dually. I had to set the gain at 10. I had a car pull out in front of me on the maiden voyage and nearly had to get a new truck and RV. The 2.5" Brakes are inferior for this much weight. After Smart-Weighing the RV at the 2015 Rally, I was at 97% and 94% capacity on the tires and axles. I've had to replace 1 Goodyear tire as it began to split ($495).

Now: I have reset the gain to 4.5! I can stop the RV VERY quickly! I even tested this at 60 mph on a downhill grade of 8%. If I had intentionally slammed on the brakes, a car could not have reacted fast enough to avoid a rear end collision! I never fully deployed the brakes to a skid. It would have been no problem but I didn't want to tear up a brand new set of tires. IT IS AMAZING! This is not night or day at all. This is more like moving from 1717 to 2017! With the new equipment, the RV is higher in the back end. I can't tell exactly how much yet, but it is obvious. I contribute this to the thicker Dexter axles, the add'l leaf in the spring, and the shorter shackles. It may be at least an inch, but more likely 2. When I have it out next time, I'll take a measure.

If you ever wondered whether or not this was worth doing, DO NOT HESITATE!

  • Do not SETTLE for inferior products installed by the unregulated RV manufacturing Industry!
  • Do not settle for inferior engineering!
  • Do not risk your life on borderline equipment!
  • Do your math calculations and be sure you have a safety margin.

If you are going to buy new, make sure you understand what you are purchasing (base equipment). If buying used, look over your equipment to make sure you are not in harms way!

I can't brag enough on the difference this has made! I get no endorsement from this at all!

Titan Guy has a great product and at an even greater price! I know...I shopped to make sure. I met Titan Guy at the 2015 Rally and he really knows his stuff! I'm only sorry I didn't do this earlier.

Thanks Titan Guy for the great product and timely install!

The Lippert CenterPoint Suspension is next...

 
Posted : December 29, 2016 11:23 AM
Jim
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Nice upgrades Gip . . You will not regret any of them !

Just wait till the first LONG tow to really see just how nice it is . .

Joe

 
Posted : December 29, 2016 1:47 PM
Jim
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Looks GREAT!!!!
I think I will be adding the disks very soon and have been in touch with Ron. Could I ask what the 8K axels ran you? You can PM if you would rather not post or email is potters66@yahoo.com

Steve

 
Posted : December 29, 2016 11:20 PM
Jim
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Looks GREAT!!!!
I think I will be adding the disks very soon and have been in touch with Ron. Could I ask what the 8K axels ran you? You can PM if you would rather not post or email is potters66@yahoo.com

Steve

Sent IM with some disclaimers...

 
Posted : December 30, 2016 11:02 AM
Jim
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GipCTravelers, you stated

"Before:

7000# Lippert Axles
7000# Springs with Plastic Bushings
Chinese Bearings
2.5" Electric Brakes
Goodyear 235/80R16 14-Ply, G Rated Tires

Leaking Grease seals; No stopping power; Improper leveling of the RV to TV

Now:

8000# Axles
8000# Springs with Brass Bushings
American Made Timken Bearings
Disc Brakes
Sailun 215/75R17.5 16-Ply, H Rated Tires"

But don't you really mean you had 3,500 lb springs and now you have 4,000 lb springs??

Shortly after we purchased our 2012 36Rl in April of 2014 we noticed spring and axle and brake issues. A few springs were flat on the off door side. Probably from the rig being over loaded by previous owner. The heavy kitchen slide out is on that side. We had the 3,500 lb springs replaced with 4,000 lb springs ( 1 set at each end) but it created a different problem. The rear axle would now not center to ride even with the front axle. The front eye in the leaf spring was riding against the frame, rotating the equalizer. We ended up having Lippert install correct springs and they had to remove the hangers and move them further apart in order for the springs to work. The 4,000 lb spring stack was not only stronger, had 1 more leaf spring in the stack, but also longer in length. The local axle shop didn't do their math correctly. With Lippert doing the expensive repair, things have been good ever since.

Glad you like your improved ride. You have to feel much safer now.

Chris

 
Posted : December 30, 2016 12:37 PM
Jim
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GipCTravelers, you stated

"Before:

7000# Lippert Axles
7000# Springs with Plastic Bushings
Chinese Bearings
2.5" Electric Brakes
Goodyear 235/80R16 14-Ply, G Rated Tires

Leaking Grease seals; No stopping power; Improper leveling of the RV to TV

Now:

8000# Axles
8000# Springs with Brass Bushings
American Made Timken Bearings
Disc Brakes
Sailun 215/75R17.5 16-Ply, H Rated Tires"

But don't you really mean you had 3,500 lb springs and now you have 4,000 lb springs??

Shortly after we purchased our 2012 36Rl in April of 2014 we noticed spring and axle and brake issues. A few springs were flat on the off door side. Probably from the rig being over loaded by previous owner. The heavy kitchen slide out is on that side. We had the 3,500 lb springs replaced with 4,000 lb springs ( 1 set at each end) but it created a different problem. The rear axle would now not center to ride even with the front axle. The front eye in the leaf spring was riding against the frame, rotating the equalizer. We ended up having Lippert install correct springs and they had to remove the hangers and move them further apart in order for the springs to work. The 4,000 lb spring stack was not only stronger, had 1 more leaf spring in the stack, but also longer in length. The local axle shop didn't do their math correctly. With Lippert doing the expensive repair, things have been good ever since.

Glad you like your improved ride. You have to feel much safer now.

Chris

Thanks Chris for pointing that out. In fact, I referenced the pair per axle but individually, yes, they would be 4000 lbs PER spring. 8000 for the pair each axle.

I may have also neglected to mention that the new springs new have brass bushings instead of the cheap plastic ones. I think that they were included in the Dexter Wet Bolt kit....

 
Posted : December 30, 2016 1:55 PM
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