The weigh-in results certainly surprised me. Pin weight was 4,000#. Unless their data has an error or the Chevy published data is off I am marginal. The guy doing the weighing also was surprised so we both double checked the truck's GCWR and their math. I was the last weigh-in for the day so we sat in the shade and reviewed all the numbers. The scales could be in error. Hopefully not for $55.00.
Robert ~ I don't know what the GMC specs are, but my 36RL has a 3660 lb pin weight and I'm loaded heavy. I ran the rig through a CAT Scale on the way out to the Rally and then had the truck weighed separately. My total GCWR is 26,867 and the truck alone is 9490. GCWR for my Dually is 31,100 lbs.
I too am confused. Unless the GCWR for the GM trucks is much less than Ford or Dodge
Robert
If I were you I would run it over a cat scale. My weight from the rally did not seem to coincide with my cat scale weight. I knew I was heavier than last year and that showed. My pin weight was down over 900 lbs from the last weigh. This should not have been as extra weight added was on the axle or ahead of it. I suspect his scales were off somewhat. My rl came in at 17000 with a 3100 lb pin
Robert the Gcwr on my 2015 is 30500 lbs
Yours will be the same or higher
Totally agree. After the 2015 Escapees weigh-in and damaging E- rated tire blowout this April I now have 17.5" H-rated tires on our 36RL. The G ratings were a little close to max for me. With the robust Mor/Ryde shackle link/bronze bushings/wet bolt install and the G-rated 16-ply tires with the previously installed Titan disc brakes the drive back to KC from Shipshewana was super smooth and relaxing. The rear observation camera and TPMS added additional peace of mind and control. This is the first time I felt safe and relaxed pulling our 36RL. Also should mention that our new 2016 Silverado 3500 HD DWD Crew Cab long bed High Country is at max GCWR per the weigh-in at Shipshewana and that is with empty tanks, lightly loaded RV and no extra cargo in the truck. If I was to load this RV for extended trips most likely a Freightliner or other heavy duty truck would be required to assure maximum safety and dependability.
Here are the Big 3 "Advertised" rating. Remember that these are "Advertised" numbers. Marketing strategies sometimes advertise things they can't really do.
CHEVY:
http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-3500hd-diesel-trucks.html
RAM:
FORD:
http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/2016/specifications/towing/
This old engineer has had a nagging since the weigh-in that agrees with all your posts. I am going to dive into this issue.
Robert ~ I don't know what the GMC specs are, but my 36RL has a 3660 lb pin weight and I'm loaded heavy. I ran the rig through a CAT Scale on the way out to the Rally and then had the truck weighed separately. My total GCWR is 26,867 and the truck alone is 9490. GCWR for my Dually is 31,100 lbs.
I too am confused. Unless the GCWR for the GM trucks is much less than Ford or Dodge
Past GM and Chevy models WERE lighter capacity that Ram and Ford. Not sure what they have done, but the current Chevy ratings for 2016 are now showing close running's with Ford and Ram.
In 2014, Ram had the lead position. Then Ford advertised a "New" rating in 2015 to match or slightly beat Ram. 2016, both Ram and Ford advertised nearly the same and now I see Chevy there. Are they actually doing anything? I can't say. It could be a marketing ploy....
If you want to add a little more safety and capacity, step up to the 4500 Ram or Chevy/GM. Or the F-450. The 3500 series seems to be good, but for a little extra money next time, I might step up 1 notch.
Using the DRW ratings of 23,500 on each and given a GVWR on the Redwood at 16,600, that will be a load capacity of 70% (+ or -). So, using any of the 3 should be fine (Now...).
Likewise my RL is:
Pin 3450
Total 16050
Listed GCWR 31900
Okay. After a great cool (mid 80's) afternoon I dug into the weigh-in numbers. All you folks are spot on. The data on the sheet is a mess however easy to untangle. My 2016 Silverado 3500HD High Country DWD crew cab long bed has a GCWR of 31,000 pounds (same as most of you reported). The pin weight at this month's weigh-in was 4,200 pounds and that is with nearly full black, gray and galley tanks. Taking out about 2,158 pounds, for the tanks, the pin weight would be about 2,042 pounds. Given that one 40 pound propane tank was empty and the other about 2/3's full I would bump the pin weight up to about 2,500-3000 pounds to allow for "stuff" as I always tow with empty tanks, full propane tanks and DW's shoes!!. The RW came in at 13,700 pounds which is 1,100 pounds heavier than last year. The new buffet, new and much higher capacity batteries, new 17.5" G-rated tires & rims and new furniture could be the culprits. The truck's rated rear GAWR is 9,375#. I was at 6,750# with the RW hitched. That is a great safety window.
The new G-rated tires, MOR/ryde heavy duty shackle links/bushings and wet bolts combined with the TPMS and rear vision camera made the ride back to the KC area a joy. The TrailAir hitch did the job and except for a few construction areas the ride was great. MOR/ryde pointed out to me that our rear axle was all but falling loose from the frame when we arrived at their shop. The LCI shackle links and bushings were shot after 3,500 miles. The MOR/ryde mechanic measured +/- 0.75 inches of motion per bolt!! He stated I should be in the +/-0.005 inch range. Removing that slop provided a significant improvement in the handling of the RW.
I told my DW that with all the interior and exterior additions we have made I am ready to hit the road and will keep the RW verses trading on a MH which we would probably go through a painfully debug and upgrade period. She was happy to hear that. The Tuscany owner forms indicate that our choice of MH's is just as much in need of owner involvement as our RW. We love our RW so that is all she wrote!! Thanks to all for sharing your insights. Full timing is a discussion we have however for now we are fully engaged with our brick and mortar home so sadly for now the covered storage facility will enjoy our RW 70% plus of the year.
Robert
Glad you found the correct info on your truck. The piece of mind knowing you have the correct setup makes the trip much more enjoyable without the worries of what if.
Safe travels
For now, we have come to the same conclusion. Hopefully, the sticks and bricks will be gone in the next couple of months. Otherwise, spring is coming!
