I'm trying to understand the various Morryde Suspension Systems and have a couple of questions? I understand the Morryde IS is the best and is an independent suspension system that eliminates leaf springs. I'm more confused by the RE/LRE and SRE Suspensions. My 2018 GK came with 8,000 lb axles, 17.5" H-rated tires, drum brakes and a Morryde LRE 4100 suspension. I think that is is a pretty beefy suspension and an improvement over earlier Redwoods but I can't find a "4100" on Morryde's website just the 4000 series. I'm guessing the 4100 LRE is specifically branded to Redwood? I'd also like to know if the 4100 LRE has the heavy duty shackle and wetbolt kit? It looks like the SRE isn't even designed for anything above 7,000 lb axles. That said what are the differences between the RE/LRE and the SRE? I need a Suspension 101 class! Thanks!
From the photo it appears you've got the wet bolts, but can't tell about the heavy shackles. Since the equalizer is MorRyde I'd guess they'd do the heavy shackles (MRs shackles are nearly a 1/2" thick), bronze bushings (won't be able to tell by just looking) & the wet bolts.
It would be my guess that the "4100" model would be the RW specific model number.
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Looking on their site, I see that the SRE4000 has 4" travel, and is the same as the LRE except is does the LRE does not have a cross member ( X factor )
They BOTH show 4" of travel.... I am betting its a Redwood specific item that is a cross between the SRE and the LRE
Call or email Gary, he is a great guy and I am sure h would be glad to tell you the exact differences.
I asked that question last year because I couldn't find it on their website and was told that it is an 8000 lb system.
From the photo it appears you've got the wet bolts, but can't tell about the heavy shackles. Since the equalizer is MorRyde I'd guess they'd do the heavy shackles (MRs shackles are nearly a 1/2" thick), bronze bushings (won't be able to tell by just looking) & the wet bolts.
It would be my guess that the "4100" model would be the RW specific model number.
Attached is a pic of the shackle up against a tape measure. The shackles are stamped Morryde and are pretty close to 1/2" thick. The bolts are definitely wet bolts as there are zerk fittings in them. Not sure about the bushing material but I'd hope they aren't the nylon ones.
Looking on their site, I see that the SRE4000 has 4" travel, and is the same as the LRE except is does the LRE does not have a cross member ( X factor )
They BOTH show 4" of travel.... I am betting its a Redwood specific item that is a cross between the SRE and the LRE
Call or email Gary, he is a great guy and I am sure h would be glad to tell you the exact differences.
Thank you! Btw here is the link to the SRE on Morryde's webpage. In the features section it indicates: Tested and rated for 5200 to 7000 lb. axles. I take it Gary is the go to Morryde guy?
http://www.morryde.com/products/88-sre4000-suspension-system
We have this 4100 system on our 18 3901 MB also. Subscribing to this thread. I keep the joints greased although one will not take grease. I’m going to try removing the zerk and maybe the bolt to see whats up with that. We traveled a little over 12,000 miles with it and no issues yet. Been on I-70 between Columbus Oh and Indianapolis twice. If a system can make it through there it’s pretty durable. Sure gave the inside a rattle though. Had to fix closet and shower doors that night.
Looking on their site, I see that the SRE4000 has 4" travel, and is the same as the LRE except is does the LRE does not have a cross member ( X factor )
They BOTH show 4" of travel.... I am betting its a Redwood specific item that is a cross between the SRE and the LRE
Call or email Gary, he is a great guy and I am sure h would be glad to tell you the exact differences.
Thank you! Btw here is the link to the SRE on Morryde's webpage. In the features section it indicates: Tested and rated for 5200 to 7000 lb. axles. I take it Gary is the go to Morryde guy?
http://www.morryde.com/products/88-sre4000-suspension-system
Yes, Gary Wheeler is the man.. Gary.Wheeler@morryde.com
From the photo it appears you've got the wet bolts, but can't tell about the heavy shackles. Since the equalizer is MorRyde I'd guess they'd do the heavy shackles (MRs shackles are nearly a 1/2" thick), bronze bushings (won't be able to tell by just looking) & the wet bolts.
It would be my guess that the "4100" model would be the RW specific model number.Attached is a pic of the shackle up against a tape measure. The shackles are stamped Morryde and are pretty close to 1/2" thick. The bolts are definitely wet bolts as there are zerk fittings in them. Not sure about the bushing material but I'd hope they aren't the nylon ones.
I will ASSUME they your bushings are brass... since you have the HD shackles, and wet bolts, Morryde would not leave them back... Lippert on the other hand ???
We have this 4100 system on our 18 3901 MB also. Subscribing to this thread. I keep the joints greased although one will not take grease. I’m going to try removing the zerk and maybe the bolt to see whats up with that. We traveled a little over 12,000 miles with it and no issues yet. Been on I-70 between Columbus Oh and Indianapolis twice. If a system can make it through there it’s pretty durable. Sure gave the inside a rattle though. Had to fix closet and shower doors that night.
If the zerk that won't take grease is on one of the spring eyes opposite the equalizer I'd be checking that it has a bronze bushing & not plastic.
On mine, which didn't come with any MorRyde parts, all the spring eyes had plastic/nylon bushings that were toast in about 5-6k miles. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find yours the same way. First off I don't think MR is sending folks into RWs assembly line to just install the springs & equalizer & second I don't see RW folks pausing an extra 5 minutes to replace the plastic bushings already in the springs with the bronze. I'd be curious to find out which are in yours.
Travelin' Texans
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!!
We have this 4100 system on our 18 3901 MB also. Subscribing to this thread. I keep the joints greased although one will not take grease. I’m going to try removing the zerk and maybe the bolt to see whats up with that. We traveled a little over 12,000 miles with it and no issues yet. Been on I-70 between Columbus Oh and Indianapolis twice. If a system can make it through there it’s pretty durable. Sure gave the inside a rattle though. Had to fix closet and shower doors that night.
usonwheels have you been riding on the factory Westlake tires as well? Have you experienced any tire or wheel problems in your travels? Thanks!
We have this 4100 system on our 18 3901 MB also. Subscribing to this thread. I keep the joints greased although one will not take grease. I’m going to try removing the zerk and maybe the bolt to see whats up with that. We traveled a little over 12,000 miles with it and no issues yet. Been on I-70 between Columbus Oh and Indianapolis twice. If a system can make it through there it’s pretty durable. Sure gave the inside a rattle though. Had to fix closet and shower doors that night.
I’m pretty busy this summer into fall and my next big trip is in September. I don’t know when I will have a chance to check these out but am concerned at this point. I will post up when I find out whats in there.
We have this 4100 system on our 18 3901 MB also. Subscribing to this thread. I keep the joints greased although one will not take grease. I’m going to try removing the zerk and maybe the bolt to see whats up with that. We traveled a little over 12,000 miles with it and no issues yet. Been on I-70 between Columbus Oh and Indianapolis twice. If a system can make it through there it’s pretty durable. Sure gave the inside a rattle though. Had to fix closet and shower doors that night.
usonwheels have you been riding on the factory Westlake tires as well? Have you experienced any tire or wheel problems in your travels? Thanks!
Most of those miles were on the Westlakes but I kept a VERY close eye on them. In June I got Sailun tires after I saw some minor cracking where the sidewall meets the tread. I saw that and got nervous and figured at that point it was time. I replaced the drum brakes with disc brakes in June also the same time as the tires. Just didn’t feel comfortable with the factory drum brakes.
I have a 2018 3901 MB with the 4100 as well. The shackles on the 4100 end are indeed the 1/2” heavy duty shackles. The shackles on the other end, attached to the frame are unfortunately the same old 1/4”.
I had a stubborn grease fitting as well and found that if I ran the coach up on the level up jacks it took the pressure off the springs and it took grease.
I was told at the rally that the hole in the wet bolt needed to be located at the 3 o’clock or 9 o’clock position in order to take grease. The stress points on the bolt are 12 and 6 with weight on the springs. Also you can install the bolts with zerks facing in or out, so I will be locating the zerk toward the inside of the coach. That way I don’t have to fight with the wheels to grease.
