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Jim
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Thought I would post this picture with the idea that Redwood may see it here on the site and take note of the poor quality by their employees or lack of training by RW.

We have a 2014 36FL and this problem hopefully has been corrected but after reading many posts and also the extreme heat in the front area and upper cabinet, I decided to investigate.

This picture is exactly how it looked when I removed the wall panel. There were no signs of even 1 staple holding it in originally so all that was done was the R-11 at best but I think much less was pushed between the tiny studs as you do in a residential home. Well...... did the RW employee forget this is being towed down the road??

Thank you RW for giving us many endless projects.

We still love our RW and would most likely purchase another but since new EVERY problem we had was do to quality in the factory and not a product failing.

Steve

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 8:36 AM
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Steve,
I am opening mine up i think today.... any ideas on hoe you are going to rehang it? Or possibly replace with new ?

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 10:05 AM
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Obviously static electricity won't hold it up. If they would have kept piling it in there that would've worked. Must have been time for his mandatory union coffee break.
I agree, NICE WORK RW!!

Travelin' Texans
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!!

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 11:39 AM
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Posted : March 5, 2017 11:40 AM
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If your redwood has the front closet which is installed in the cap,then it is relatively easy to remove the shoeboxes and add additional fiberglass batting. When I removed the shoeboxes in our unit the fiberglass batting which was installed by the factory had all fallen to the bottom of the cap. I was able to add two complete new rolls of 4 inch thick by 16 inch wide fiberglass bats to completely fill the area from bottom to top. Rather than try to hang the fiberglass bats I simply stuff the area from bottom to top. We no longer suffer from cold drafts in the winter or hot drafts in the summer coming from the front closet. I wish I could find a way to do the same to the rear cap!

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 12:53 PM
Jim
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Thought I would post this picture with the idea that Redwood may see it here on the site and take note of the poor quality by their employees or lack of training by RW.

We have a 2014 36FL and this problem hopefully has been corrected but after reading many posts and also the extreme heat in the front area and upper cabinet, I decided to investigate.

This picture is exactly how it looked when I removed the wall panel. There were to signs of even 1 staple holding it in originally so all that was done was the R-11 at best but I think much less was pushed between the tiny studs as you do in a residential home. Well...... did the RW employee forget this is being towed down the road??

Thank you RW for giving us many endless projects.

We still love our RW and would most likely purchase another but since new EVERY problem we had was do to quality in the factory and not a product failing.

Steve

WOW!
I guess according to the RV industry mentality, "What do you expect to get in a 4 seasons, year around living, $70K to $100K product? Do you really expect the insulation to stay between the studs while traveling up and down the roads? You dumb consumers. :ohmy: 👿

Steve, thanks for posting the picture. It will be interesting to see if Redwood has any comment or even posts a response. :whistle:

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 3:17 PM
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So i pulled out my shoe boxes today and found 1 side that was drooping, and 1 side that looked great...

I went and got a roll of insulation and some spray adhesive, and did some patch work. The aluminum foil had become lose from the front cap in 1 spot. Behind the center shelves was tight and looked good, the whole left side looked great, it was only the right side that dropped a little..
here are the 2 sides before-

Right:

Left:

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 4:44 PM
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And the 2 sides after-

Right -

Left -

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 4:47 PM
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It's all back together and what I did is first through out the old insulation and cut the center stud out so I could get in there a little better. Replaced both plugs with normal plugs with old work boxes so now when you plug something in the wall doesn't move.
I now have two complete layers of R-38 in the cap. I made sure the reflective membrane they used was hung properly so if there is any condensation it will run down the cap and out by the pin without getting anything else wet.
I attached it very well with staples and then used the large 24" plastic ties for AC duct work. I should be there to stay now. Spray foam would be a great idea but I don't have the equipment to do it and didn't want the mess.

Steve

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 4:51 PM
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Posted : March 5, 2017 4:58 PM
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I did not touch the center box, the insulation was tight between the cap and the center box.. the show boxes had 4 screws, 1 in each corner holding them in.
Once they were removed, it was easy to see what needed attention..

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 5:06 PM
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The other place to look is under the safe. I took it out and saw light from the area behind the hitch. I spay foamed that area and bedded the safe in the spray foam in addition to some plastic material to prevent draughts.

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 7:12 PM
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How does the safe come out ?

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 7:32 PM
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Easily! Open the safe with the key, there are 4 square Robertson screws, undo them and pull it out.

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 7:36 PM
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Thanks, that's next now !

 
Posted : March 5, 2017 7:47 PM
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