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Jim
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Well, I opened up my Front Cap panel this afternoon, (remember I have a Front Living Floor Plan similar to Steve's)

Pretty easy to open it up, man what a mess.

No wonder my Front Living Room area stays so warm during the summer !!!

Now for the fix, someone here at the CG suggested putting block foam up there and securing it to the wall, if secured wall, it will not compress and fall down.
Still not sure how I am going to get the insulation back in there and it not compress.
Do I just stuff the front cap area full of insulation from the top to the bottom so there is no where for it to go? Will it still compress over time going down the road?
Or a combination of Block Foam next to the wallboard and fiberglass between the foam and the bubble foil?

The Bubble Foil is just hanging down in front the cap, should I use adhesive and glue the bubble foil to the cap or just leave it hanging loose?

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 6:01 PM
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I am sorry to hear of the insulation problems relative to the front cap. For those owners who have not investigated this problem with regard to their own trailers, it seems to me that Redwood should not only address this issue relative to manufacturing, but should provide potential solutions to repairing and resolving this problem. What, in fact, is the best method of reinsulating the front cap?

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 6:31 PM
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Rob,

I would use adhesive for the bubble wrap, and this is what I did :

I used spray adhesive on the bubble foil, and I got some good R insulation, and cut it into 10" long pieces.. Starting at the bottom of each section,I stacked the pieces on top of each other.. I could do that because with the RL, basically the entire middle of the cap was TIGHT and insulated as the shelves seamed to have held up the insulation and bubble foil.

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 6:36 PM
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Looks like we have twins Rob..... Just think about how much time the RW engineers spent on designing this?????
Your picture of the floor and carpet is what I had mentioned in my message. On ours the plywood floor touched the cap on both sides. I had originally thought it to be a good idea to cut it back so not to rub but after looking it over it supports the cap in that area from vibrating.
Good Luck and insulation will make a huge difference.
Probably never need this front cap # but if anyone does this is the tag I found in there.

Steve

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 7:15 PM
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Looks like we have twins Rob..... Just think about how much time the RW engineers spent on designing this?????
Your picture of the floor and carpet is what I had mentioned in my message. On ours the plywood floor touched the cap on both sides. I had originally thought it to be a good idea to cut it back so not to rub but after looking it over it supports the cap in that area from vibrating.
Good Luck and insulation will make a huge difference.
Probably never need this front cap # but if anyone does this is the tag I found in there.

Steve

Steve........... I doubt that there were any engineers or engineering design involved in the process. This was likely left up to someone on the production line to figure out how to do it and they obviously didn't/don't have a clue about good construction techniques.

Redwood......... you are are supposed to be monitoring this forum. It is time to step up and provide some real customer service to the owners with some solutions/remedies to an obvious failure in your manufacturing process.

Guy

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 7:43 PM
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Posted : April 21, 2017 8:07 PM
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us too!

 
Posted : April 21, 2017 10:14 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the great ideas and suggestions.
I will go the local home improvement stores early tomorrow morning and get this project done before it gets warm up there (fortunately at my current location, the sun sets on the front cap)

 
Posted : April 22, 2017 12:03 AM
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Just pulled both show boxes out of the wall in the closet and both sides look great! Whew!

 
Posted : April 22, 2017 10:06 AM
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Got the new R30 insulation installed this morning and the wall buttoned back up.

Wound up adding some 1x4 boards on the side of some of the 2x2 runners to make a better pocket for the insulation, then stapled A/C duct hanger woven strap material to hold and support the insulation in place.
Also glued the insulation to the wall, everything seems pretty solid in place, hope stays.

Like Steve, I used 2 Rolls of R 30 Insulation, my front living room area should stay cooler on the hot summer days.

 
Posted : April 22, 2017 11:25 AM
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Rob
Perhaps you and Steve can get with Terry and we can add your guys pics to the technical Library with a brief editorial on your fixes for the FL models
Thanks

 
Posted : April 22, 2017 1:24 PM
Jim
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Shane - great idea.

 
Posted : April 22, 2017 4:33 PM
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I know the Resources menu is a mess, but there is a Owner Modification which brings you to a page that has "Contribute modifications to add your modifications"

That will allow you to upload specifics about the modification that everyone can benefit from.

I know the process needs cleaning up, but that's what we've got at the moment.

Thanks everyone for adding to the crowd sourced data that makes a forum like this work.

Ken & Gizzi
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Posted : April 22, 2017 11:42 PM
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The biggest difference in the Front Cap area between the Front Living and Rear Living Layouts is in the Front Living, there is no shoe storage or anything else behind the wall, just a big void up there.
Not much to help hold up the insulation or support it.

 
Posted : April 23, 2017 12:47 AM
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Wow, what a difference !!!

With direct sun on my front cap, my front living area is much cooler and when touching my front wall on the inside, it feels cool to the touch (always felt warm in the past when the sun was shinning on front Cap)

 
Posted : April 23, 2017 3:53 PM
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