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Nope! That's a four letter word the starts with "F"!
Travelin' Texans
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!!
Nope! That's a four letter word the starts with "F" that we can't say at our house!
Travelin' Texans
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!!
You have to offer something the "haves" can feed on. They can't live on the diet suited for "have nots" 🙂
I couldn't stomach when they got over $50K. I think I actually saved money with a MH.
The price of aluminum must be way up!
Travelin' Texans
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!!
I saw that article, I think it had every available option.
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Well given Ram doesn't offer a 4500 in any kind of a nice truck it's hard to compare, but I got to $83260 pretty fast on a 3500 Dodge dually using build your own. Rarely have Ford and Dodge run together on price. Usually Dodge was the economical alternative even if just by name. Not saying Dodge isn't a great truck and I would probably get one, but they have traditionally not been as expensive as Ford, and there are quite a few gadgets on that Ford that Dodge doesn't offer like the birds eye view outside camera and trailer docking system.
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Well given Ram doesn't offer a 4500 in any kind of a nice truck it's hard to compare, but I got to $83260 pretty fast on a 3500 Dodge dually using build your own. Rarely have Ford and Dodge run together on price. Usually Dodge was the economical alternative even if just by name. Not saying Dodge isn't a great truck and I would probably get one, but they have traditionally not been as expensive as Ford, and there are quite a few gadgets on that Ford that Dodge doesn't offer like the birds eye view outside camera and trailer docking system.
Hummm...
Based on the Ford F450 info in post #6 (Ford towing 5th wheels at 27,500 lbs), I'm not sure Ram needs a 4500...it "seems" that with the 3500, the Ram can tow a fifth wheel or gooseneck pretty comfortably at 30,200 lbs...;)
It does make me glad I bought in 2014 🙂 ....I did not come close to $83K...:(
https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/towing_guide/pdf/2017_ram_3500_towing_charts.pdf
Just proves anyone can get published. The F450, even 2017, can tow a 5er/gooseneck that weighs up to 32,500 lbs. The limiting factor on a 5th wheel for any truck is the hitch. My OEM puck hitch was only rated for 26,500 lbs, which is the same hitch used on the F450 in 2014, so even if it could tow 50,000 lbs, it's rated to the hitch available. Your Dodge won't tow 30,200 on a fifth wheel hitch unless the hitch is rated to do so. That's why the same truck is only rated to pull a TT of 21,000 lbs, because that is the maximum class receiver hitch available.
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Well given Ram doesn't offer a 4500 in any kind of a nice truck it's hard to compare, but I got to $83260 pretty fast on a 3500 Dodge dually using build your own. Rarely have Ford and Dodge run together on price. Usually Dodge was the economical alternative even if just by name. Not saying Dodge isn't a great truck and I would probably get one, but they have traditionally not been as expensive as Ford, and there are quite a few gadgets on that Ford that Dodge doesn't offer like the birds eye view outside camera and trailer docking system.
Hummm...
Based on the Ford F450 info in post #6 (Ford towing 5th wheels at 27,500 lbs), I'm not sure Ram needs a 4500...it "seems" that with the 3500, the Ram can tow a fifth wheel or gooseneck pretty comfortably at 30,200 lbs...;)
It does make me glad I bought in 2014 🙂 ....I did not come close to $83K...:(
https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/towing_guide/pdf/2017_ram_3500_towing_charts.pdf
Just proves anyone can get published. The F450, even 2017, can tow a 5er/gooseneck that weighs up to 32,500 lbs. The limiting factor on a 5th wheel for any truck is the hitch. My OEM puck hitch was only rated for 26,500 lbs, which is the same hitch used on the F450 in 2014, so even if it could tow 50,000 lbs, it's rated to the hitch available. Your Dodge won't tow 30,200 on a fifth wheel hitch unless the hitch is rated to do so. That's why the same truck is only rated to pull a TT of 21,000 lbs, because that is the maximum class receiver hitch available.
AND....Just because a manufacturer SAYS that it will pull over 30,000 lbs, should you?
Anyone pulling at 100% is just inviting engine/transmission problems. 80% allows for margin as one chooses to climb a mountain range or long distance in hot weather without excessive strain on a vehicle.
I hear you!
the trucks are engineered to perform to 100% of their ratings. You dont need to add your own safety factor, they already have.
We have a 2013 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 - non-dually - and could not be happier with how it pulls the Redwood! It was the top of the line Dodge at the time with every option and much more comfortable than any Ford we ever owned for me (a female) to drive. I used to tow living quarters horse trailers on long trips with a Ford 1 ton and the power lacked on mountain passes and the seat never worked for my body.
Not to mention many states anything over 26,000 you need a class A license to drive legally. Now I did find out that I can take my test in Texas using my current truck and RW because it is over 21,000 pounds. Then if I do decide to get a Semi Tractor to convert I will only have to take the air brake written and proficiency part of the test. Like the idea of 400-500 HP and 1500-2000 pounds of torque.......:woohoo:
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