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Hello everyone,
I just got my estimate on a second AC today 15,000 BTU heat pump $2,295.95. Just curious if this price is in line with what I should expect to pay. This is installed. Thanks for any help
Leonard

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 8:16 PM
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Leonard, Don't know how many hours it takes to install, but it shouldn't take very long. But googled and found quite a few places with a Coleman Mach 15K a/c with heat pump for $950 to $1000. Pretty sure a better price can be found than the price you were quoted. Those that I were looking at were only around 8" tall, so extremely low profile to help with wind resistance.

Chris

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 8:37 PM
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To purchase the unit is around 1000.00 and shouldn't be more than 400.00 install. The trailer should already be wired for 2 and am surprised you only have 1 to begin with

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 8:44 PM
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I am opting for the Helium based units. They provide 18,000 BTUs instead of 15,000 BTUs for the same wattage. They are made by Atwood and have been retailing around $900. Probably 2-3 hour labor total at $125 hour, that would be $1400??

Look at this way...You got what you wanted; when you wanted it; and they probably did you a great job; with same day service. There is a price for getting what you want. Be happy and move on 🙂

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 9:25 PM
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I haven't done it yet

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 9:54 PM
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That's what I understood by 'estimate' in your post.

Chris

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 9:59 PM
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There is no access in the roof so a hole will have to be cut in top of the rv. This makes me very nervous. I think that is why it was a $750,00 labor charge. This estimate is from Twin lakes RV in LaGrange, In. I would think they would know they're stuff. As far as the rv goes.

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 10:03 PM
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There were a few out there with 1 AC, as the 2nd was an option. I always thought the 2nd would be prepped but if not, it is going to be costly. More than wiring, you will want to keep the supply and return in the ducting system already there, otherwise the noise from a ceiling controlled standalone will be terrible compared to what Redwood originally offered.

Just a note on low profile - don't bother. Get the full size - the compromise with low profile is additional noise due to the compact design. I truly hate my Mach 8 low profile units, and I hated my Penguin before that. Of all systems I've had, the Redwood had the most quietest design of all - didn't move a lot of air because of restrictions, but it just hummed.

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 10:23 PM
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There is no access in the roof so a hole will have to be cut in top of the rv. This makes me very nervous. I think that is why it was a $750,00 labor charge. This estimate is from Twin lakes RV in LaGrange, In. I would think they would know they're stuff. As far as the rv goes.

The second unit should already be prepped. Its just a matter of locating the pre-built cutout.

That's the part that would make me nervous but it should only take a shop a few hours to perform.

Have you considered coming to the Rally early and having the factory install?

I wonder if you could make an appointment in advance?

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 10:42 PM
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Good information on the low profile I think that was what they were going to go with because of height.
What I'm concerned about is that there is no roof access so they will have to cut a hole in the roof too mount the unit. So I would like someone who knows what they are doing.

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 10:45 PM
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There is no access in the roof so a hole will have to be cut in top of the rv. This makes me very nervous. I think that is why it was a $750,00 labor charge. This estimate is from Twin lakes RV in LaGrange, In. I would think they would know they're stuff. As far as the rv goes.

The second unit should already be prepped. Its just a matter of locating the pre-built cutout.

That's the part that would make me nervous but it should only take a shop a few hours to perform.

Have you considered coming to the Rally early and having the factory install?

I wonder if you could make an appointment in advance?

Based on our discussions at the Service Centre, they will not install new equipment. During our meetings last year we were advised the service centre has no ability to receive revenue, so they only perform warranty repairs and may address non-warranty repair work during the rally.

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 11:24 PM
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I would much have preferred redwood do the install. I called them first and they said they did not do that kind of service work and referred me to Twin Lakes RV Repair.
I do intend to come to the rally, that's when I'd like to get this taken care of.

 
Posted : January 19, 2017 11:43 PM
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I will be in the area of the Redwood factory the week before the rally. If anyone has any helpful suggestions as to how I might get Redwood to do the install, they would be GREATLY appreciated.

 
Posted : January 20, 2017 12:15 AM
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Try calling Tiara RV . . they are in Elkhart Indiana and work closely with Redwood.

While out there in June, I had them install my Onan 6500.. It was a few hundred less then Onan of Indiana.

 
Posted : January 20, 2017 9:14 AM
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The second unit should already be prepped. Its just a matter of locating the pre-built cutout.

I doubt seriously there is a prebuilt cutout hidden in the roof but I've been wrong before. At the very least the electrical has to be behind a cover plate in the ceiling, because it cannot it be terminated without an accessible electrical box.

In my experience with AC prep - you get a 14x14 roof vent that fills the prep hole and seals off any duct terminations, and an electrical box with the AC adjacent to the vent. The low voltage for the thermostat doesn't have to be accessible so it may be stuffed up behind the frame of the vent. At some point the location in the wall for the thermostat also needs to have the other end of the thermostat prewire installed in there. That wire can be hidden and you would have to find out what they tied it to to find it (kind of like the control cable for the satellite on the roof taped under the roof to the coax penetration).

The bad news is - I don't see where Redwood offered the AC prep on the attached workup for 2012. They offered a 2nd AC option, but no prep. The 2nd AC became mandatory in 2016 and the 3rd AC was an option. It's very possible you have no prep at all and it will require some extensive install to get it to work in harmony with the ducting system. The cheaper but less desirable approach would be to just have a stand alone (non-ducted) installed with the controls and thermostat in the ceiling grille itself. You would have to get 110vac to it, but thats it. We had a Montana like that, and it was noisy but we would use it to cool down then shut it off and let the primary try to maintain the temp.

 
Posted : January 20, 2017 12:47 PM
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