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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #1

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Anyone have any suggestions for winterizing a 2019 3951WB, specifically introducing rv antifreeze into the coach? I believe that I need to connect a antifreeze inlet hose to the city water connection and then switch the bypass pump to winterize. I think this will draw the antifreeze into the system, but not sure. Just picked up the trailer a month ago, lousy walkthrough with the dealer, and I need to build the inlet hose myself.The directions on the convenience center are terrible.
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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #2

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Really not sure about the new Redwoods; our elder coaches have a pull out hose with a cap on it in the "convenience center" (where the water inlet connections are). On our coaches that hose pulls out long enough to stick into a gallon jug of RV anti-freeze. The next step involves opening the small door access on the basement aft wall on the driver's side to locate the water pump. There should be a quarter turn valve inline with the pump inlet. That needs to be shut off to isolate the fresh water tank from the pump. Now when you remove the pull out hose cap (there should be a screen filter on the end), and stick into the RV anti-freeze jug. Now when you turn on the pump, it should pump up the water lines until the pressure switch shuts it off. Then alternately open faucets, shower, toilet lines one at a time. Anti-freeze should come out of the opening. Shut off the opening and move to the next one. Make sure that the siphon hose remains below the anti-freeze level in the jug until done. Don't forget the ice maker line (if equipped) and dishwasher (if equipped). Then you're done!!
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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #3

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Thanks Jim and Mary (Funny, that is my and my wife's name as well!). I was confused because there is no pull out hose on this unit, and I have to actually purchase and build my own inlet hose from Lowes. I pulled the back cover off of the center to see if there was a hose connector for that purpose on the pump itself, there was not. I am assuming that they made the process easier based on exeperiences in the past. Experienced camper here, I owned a 2009 Carriage Cameo that I traded in for this unit, everthing was pretty straight forward on that unit, this one...not so much! Thanks for the help!

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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #4

ramaniac wrote: Thanks Jim and Mary (Funny, that is my and my wife's name as well!). I was confused because there is no pull out hose on this unit, and I have to actually purchase and build my own inlet hose from Lowes. I pulled the back cover off of the center to see if there was a hose connector for that purpose on the pump itself, there was not. I am assuming that they made the process easier based on exeperiences in the past. Experienced camper here, I owned a 2009 Carriage Cameo that I traded in for this unit, everthing was pretty straight forward on that unit, this one...not so much! Thanks for the help!


My '13 had the hose also in the lower left corner of the convenience center.
Guess they decided to save a $1.25 in their build expenses.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #5

my 2020 does NOT have a hose either... I just figured that I would need to loosen the wall and get to the water pump to see if there is a hose there...I guess I need a PLAN B ......

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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #6

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Brings up an interesting question: With no winterization hose and no gravity fill for the fresh water tank, how do you get antifreeze in??
Wouldn't bother us as we take the RW where the weather's warm, but for those poor RWs stuck in the Northern Tundra what do they do.
I winterize our house by blowing the water out of all the lines, draining the Hot Water Heater, and putting the Pink Kool-aid into all traps and the toilets. So the same could be done with the RW.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #7

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Okay, figured it out. Went to Lowes, purchased 3/4 x 10' clear vinyl hose and a 3/4 barb to male 3/4 hose connector. Connected the tubing to the city water connector. Filled a bucket of water and placed the end of the hose in it. Switched the valve to winterization and turned on the water pump. Had the wife turn on the kitchen faucet and it worked, sucked up the water just fine. So it looks like the designers listened to the owners and simplified the process, no screws to remove to get to a valve inside the wall! I don't understand why they do not supply stuff like this for a rig of this caliber...
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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 3 days ago #8

OK.... It looks like i am off to Home Depot later today.. I have 2 weekends left then wrap her up for winter.... Thanks for the tip !

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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 2 days ago #9

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And if you have Hepvo traps, there's no need to use antifreeze in them. They don't hold any fluid.
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2019 3951WB Winterization 2 months 23 hours ago #10

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Yes, I have one in the kitchen,thanks!

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #11

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I pumped antifreeze through the 5th wheel, including the kitchen, shower, vanity, toilet, outdoor shower and then left the bucket and siphon hose set up and let the ice maker make a couple batches of pink ice cubes. I also did the washer hookup even though I don't have a washer. I then opened the low point drains and noticed two more water hookups under the convienence center with quarter turn valves on them. Never knew they were there. You may want to crawl around under there and check yours out. We have a 2019 - 3601

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #12

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Can you take a photo of the valves? I found some low point drains (4 total) but not any valves. Where are they specifically located. Certainly concerned sice we are rapidly approaching winter in Colorado!
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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #13

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These two lines were located in the opening where you would run the fresh water hose to the convenience center. Maybe they're low point drains with quarter turn valves, I don't know!! I have two other low point drains with caps.
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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #14

They look like they are your low point drains for sure... perhaps the others were for the fresh water tank?

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Yes, low point drains. One is for the ice maker. I checked with my service guy when I dropped it off for some warranty work. Another interesting suggestion he made was when you're done pumping antifreeze into the lines open all the low point drains and open the faucets. That will let the pink run out, so if freezing takes place in the lines there is room for expansion

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #16

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Strange that your service guy recommended that you open the low point drains after filling the system with RV antifreeze....I understood the entire concept was to fill all water tubes and pipes with the antifreeze to dilute/displace water in the system. Were the valves on your low point drains factory installed on your rig, or aftermarket? Did you have four (4) low point drains total?

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #17

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I was under the impression you should open the low point drain when the plumbing is under pressure with anti freeze until the anti freeze comes out and then close. This ensures the pipe to the low point drain and the valves now contain anti freeze.

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all factory installed, 4 in total

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #19

Drain all your lines of water at the low points, close them, pump the pink juice to all faucets by opening each 1 at a time til pink, leave the pink in the lines & do not open the drains once filled.
Also pour & leave about a quart +/- in the toilet, a cup or 2 down the bath sink, shower drain, wash machine line if no wash machine, your kitchen sink probably doesn't have a p trap but pour some down it to get in the tank.
Doubt very seriously you have 4 low point drains, you will have 1 each hot(red)/cold(blue) drains , 1 fresh water tank drain (probably blue) & 1 fresh water tank vent (probably white). Regardless of what your service guy told you, if you have a drain for your ice maker either the previous owner added it or you have the only RW ever built to have one.
Any further winterizing questions you should ask here as your service guy has given you poor advice in my opinion.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 2 weeks ago #20

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Isolate the water heater using the bypass valve. Remove the anode and drain the water heater, put the anode back in in just enough to keep the critters out.. Open the freshwater tank drain and empty it, close the valve when empty to keep the critters out. Remove the element from the water filter housing and replace the empty housing. Open the low point drains, turn the faucets and shower on so the water drains properly. Unhook the ice maker water line at the solenoid. When the system is empty, close the faucets, shower and ice maker supply valves. Hook up a compressor to the city water inlet and blow air out the low point drains until they're done misting. Do the same at each faucet, shower, toilet, ice maker line, outside faucet etc. until they don't blow mist from them. No need for antifreeze. Follow the fridge manufacturer's directions for winterizing the ice maker and dishwasher. Where you have conventional drain traps, use some mineral oil to fill them. No need for anything in a Hepvo trap. Antifreeze will evaporate from the traps, and cooking oil on top of the antifreeze can turn rancid while in storage. Just my way of winterizing mine. Been using air and no antifreeze for 5 years now without any issues. I also don't have to flush the system to get the antifreeze foam,taste, and smell out. I do sanitize the freshwater system with a 1/4 cup of non scented plain old household bleach to 15 gallons of water water each spring.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 1 week ago #21

If in extreme cold blowing out the lines may not be enough, but is a good idea before adding antifreeze & a couple gallons of RV antifreeze pumped into the system is pretty cheap insurance.
Never heard of the mineral oil idea in the traps, but have used vegetable oil poured into the waste tanks to help slick up the valve operation.
In the cold temps I doubt there's much evaporation happening or at least never noticed it in my rvs. As stated I pour a quart or so in the toilet & come spring there's still about a quart there.
Once you've winterized a couple times you'll come up the method that works best for you.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 5 days ago #22

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I can't see how one could have an issue with freezing if all the water is blown out. There wouldn't be anything to freeze. Worked fine for us in the military,and we were in places colder than any RV should ever be in.

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2019 3951WB Winterization 1 month 4 days ago #23

Goat wrote: I can't see how one could have an issue with freezing if all the water is blown out. There wouldn't be anything to freeze. Worked fine for us in the military,and we were in places colder than any RV should ever be in.


I mentioned this only to info others!
RV antifreeze is cheap insurance if by some chance all the water didn't blow dry.
By all means if you & the military are good with just blowing them out then do so.

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