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I have a 2016 Redwood 38RE. I'm looking to buy a new truck and was looking at a Dodge Ram. My concern is the bed length. It is 4 inches shorted than the 2009 Silverado 2500 diesel that I am pulling it with now. Didn't know if I would need a slider hitch, or if anyone is pulling their Redwood the standard type hitch.
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I should add I'm looking at the 6'4" box.

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I'll make a quick point - and this is NOT to be the one to start a controversy, but if you're looking at a new truck please, please do the following .
Get your current rig weighed at a truck stop CAT scale. I will bet almost anything that the truck rear axle weight you get will be WAY over what your current truck is rated for both tires and axle capacity. Take that weight with you when truck shopping and if you're going to stick with a SRW truck, make sure the new one will handle the weight you have.

The only one I'm aware of towing a 38RE or RL with a SRW is fordtruckguy and he will be the first to tell you he tows the coach as light as possible and has almost no wiggle room on rear axle weight. The RE and RL are pin heavy. Virtually all of us tow with a Dually for that reason.

As to your other question, I believe most of the people who have a slider hitch have said they've never used it.

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If I were to buy another tow vehicle for a RW or equivalent I'd be looking at the Ram 3500 dually mega cab short bed, of course with the Cummins & Aisin tranny. As to the slider I wouldn't think you'd need one unless you are in a very tight spot.

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If I had to use a dually to pull any fiver, it would be an HDT.

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I have a 2017 Redwood 3901MB. I pull it with a 2018 Dodge Ram 3500 DW with the 6.7 Cummins, Aisin trans, with 373 gears with the MOPAR 5/wheel in a 8 foot bed and have absolutely no problems with pulling it or moving it into a tight spot. I used to have a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Mega cab with the short bed with a BW hitch and did not have any problems with moving it around in tight spaces. No need for a slider hitch.

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Piperguy wrote: I'll make a quick point - and this is NOT to be the one to start a controversy, but if you're looking at a new truck please, please do the following .
Get your current rig weighed at a truck stop CAT scale. I will bet almost anything that the truck rear axle weight you get will be WAY over what your current truck is rated for both tires and axle capacity. Take that weight with you when truck shopping and if you're going to stick with a SRW truck, make sure the new one will handle the weight you have.

The only one I'm aware of towing a 38RE or RL with a SRW is fordtruckguy and he will be the first to tell you he tows the coach as light as possible and has almost no wiggle room on rear axle weight. The RE and RL are pin heavy. Virtually all of us tow with a Dually for that reason.

As to your other question, I believe most of the people who have a slider hitch have said they've never used it.


YUP......

I tow with my "15" Ford SRW.... My weights are - 12,380# on the trailer axles...#3460 on the pin...
I am over on my trucks GVR, but still under on my axle and tires ( 3750# each )

We are weekend warriors and have more empty cabinets than full.... As soon as we start camping more than now, it will be a DRW for me,,, until then my truck will be just fine...
I have the IS and disc brakes on the RW, the truck tows like a dream, and that is the problem. We go from SE PA to the Florida Keys and up to the Great Smokie Mountains and I can use 1 hand on the wheel as she just glides. When the time comes to convince the DW as to why we are needing the DRW as she HATES the looks of them, it will be a tough sell ... ! ! ! and we all know... what a Happy Wife = Happy life !

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Thanks all, for the info. Time to go shopping.

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I would second Danny's comment on the Ram Mega Cab Dually. My stepson has a 2015 3500 Ram SRW with the Aisin and 3.73 rear. Really nice truck. Biggest thing when looking at Ram is making sure the trans and rear axle is what you want. There are some out there with 3.42 rears and without the Aisin that are only rated to tow something like 16k or so.

Happy truck shopping and let us know what you wind up with !!

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We have been towing quite a bit with our 2018 RAM 3500 DRW.
It has the Aisin Transmission with a 4.10 Axle Ratio.
I know a little overkill on the Axle Ratio for a 18,000 lb Redwood but it tows great.
Not much help on this thread as we ordered the standard crew cab with a 8 ft bed.
We love the truck, 32,000 problem free miles so far.

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I have also read 4:10's are the way to go on Rams. A couple of folks who had the higer gears really weren't satisfied with them

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Goat wrote: I have also read 4:10's are the way to go on Rams. A couple of folks who had the higher gears really weren't satisfied with them


With 4.10 Axle Ratio the Transmission stays in 6 gear and does not hunt or downshift on every little hill when using the Cruise Control.
My take is less wear and tear on the Transmission if it is not having to downshift on every little hill.
I typically set my Cruise Control at 68 mph which is approximately 1800 rpm on the Cummins Engine which is right at the peak torque curve for the engine.

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I've found that there is more to think about than just rear axle ratios when selecting truck options. Our 2011 F-450 diesel has a 4.30 rear end ratio but the engine speed at 60 MPH in 6th gear is the same as our old Ford with a 4.10 ratio, the engine speed also depends on tire sizes and the transmission gearing. I'm very happy with how the truck hauls our RW!

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I agree, transmission gearing, axle ratio and tire diameter all play a part in the drivetrain formula / calculations

For the RAM package the Aisin Transmisson and the standard 68RFE Automatic are geared slightly different, I beleve the Aisin has a much lower 1st gear.

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Towing with Dodge Truck 5 months 1 week ago #14

bgartia@aol.com wrote: I have a 2016 Redwood 38RE. I'm looking to buy a new truck and was looking at a Dodge Ram. My concern is the bed length. It is 4 inches shorted than the 2009 Silverado 2500 diesel that I am pulling it with now. Didn't know if I would need a slider hitch, or if anyone is pulling their Redwood the standard type hitch.
Thanks in advance.


EDIT : now that I have morryde IS and disk brakes I am over on the Gross weight combine . with 100 gallons of fresh water ,82 gallons of fuel I was 800lbs over on the rear axel of the truck and 1000lb over on the gross combine (scale at 26600lbs )
I should add I'm looking at the 6'4" box.


I tow a RL38 with a 2016 GMC 3500 SRW short bed crew cab 4x4. with 100 gallons of water onboard and normal travel gear I am 350 - 400 lbs over weight on the rear axel. I have since upgraded the tires to 19.5 wheels and 245/75/19.5 Michelin XRV tires. So blow outs will not be a issue but I am over weight in the rear and under gross combile weight by under 1000lbs. I think without fresh water I am really close to max maybe a touch over still. I will lay off the doughnuts until next fall.....

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bgartia@aol.com wrote: I have a 2016 Redwood 38RE. I'm looking to buy a new truck and was looking at a Dodge Ram. My concern is the bed length. It is 4 inches shorted than the 2009 Silverado 2500 diesel that I am pulling it with now. Didn't know if I would need a slider hitch, or if anyone is pulling their Redwood the standard type hitch.
Thanks in advance.

I should add I'm looking at the 6'4" box.


I tow a RL38 with a 2016 GMC 3500 SRW short bed crew cab 4x4. with 100 gallons of water onboard and normal travel gear I am 350 - 400 lbs over weight on the rear axel. I have since upgraded the tires to 19.5 wheels and 245/75/19.5 Michelin XRV tires. So blow outs will not be a issue but I am over weight in the rear and under gross combile weight by under 1000lbs. I think without fresh water I am really close to max maybe a touch over still. I will lay off the doughnuts until next fall.....


Mark, that 100 gallons of water is just about 834#... AND since the fresh water tank on our RL is all the way up front, almost all that is on the pin...my SRW is under my axle rating which is rated for 7100... and my tires which are rated for 7500# ( 3750 # each ) .. I won't lay off the donuts ! ! !

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We have said truck, minus the dually and LOVE it. Our Redwood is a 2015 31sl. We were previously Ford people but this Ram and the mega cab beat it out. We bought our truck new in 2013.

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bgartia@aol.com wrote: I have a 2016 Redwood 38RE. I'm looking to buy a new truck and was looking at a Dodge Ram. My concern is the bed length. It is 4 inches shorted than the 2009 Silverado 2500 diesel that I am pulling it with now. Didn't know if I would need a slider hitch, or if anyone is pulling their Redwood the standard type hitch.
Thanks in advance.


Joe ,

Do you know how much your truck weighs? My crew cab GM is about 8500 as its shipped from the factory , GVW is 11,500 lb
I should add I'm looking at the 6'4" box.


I tow a RL38 with a 2016 GMC 3500 SRW short bed crew cab 4x4. with 100 gallons of water onboard and normal travel gear I am 350 - 400 lbs over weight on the rear axel. I have since upgraded the tires to 19.5 wheels and 245/75/19.5 Michelin XRV tires. So blow outs will not be a issue but I am over weight in the rear and under gross combile weight by under 1000lbs. I think without fresh water I am really close to max maybe a touch over still. I will lay off the doughnuts until next fall.....


Mark, that 100 gallons of water is just about 834#... AND since the fresh water tank on our RL is all the way up front, almost all that is on the pin...my SRW is under my axle rating which is rated for 7100... and my tires which are rated for 7500# ( 3750 # each ) .. I won't lay off the donuts ! ! !

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Mark,,,

My last CAT Scale had my truck at 8240# loaded for trip with 51 gallons of fuel

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Thank you all for the great information. I do not have a rig or a tow vehicle, and will be looking for my first truck later this year.

My thoughts at this point are to be in a RW 36RL and tow, most likely, with a Dodge 3500 SRW. From the posts that sounds like I may be pushing it.

My question, is there a site or link that spells all this info out? I'm finding out it's obviously not just as easy as, my truck can tow X pounds and the 5th is Y pounds.

Thanks for any assistance.

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AtlantaGuy wrote: Thank you all for the great information. I do not have a rig or a tow vehicle, and will be looking for my first truck later this year.

My thoughts at this point are to be in a RW 36RL and tow, most likely, with a Dodge 3500 SRW. From the posts that sounds like I may be pushing it.

My question, is there a site or link that spells all this info out? I'm finding out it's obviously not just as easy as, my truck can tow X pounds and the 5th is Y pounds.

Thanks for any assistance.



For what it is worth...........
You are looking at a combination similar to what we have. We have a 2012 36RL (built in 2011, love the coach) and a 2011 Dodge RAM 3500, 4x4, SRW, longbed. I had the combination weighed at the 2015 Redwood Rally at Shipshewanna, Indiana. In my case, the payload pin weight of the coach was about 750 lbs over the rating of the truck (sticker rating on door frame is 2649 lbs) at about 3300 lbs. We try very hard to travel lightly. We currently travel only about 2500 miles per year back and forth to Florida for the winter. My travel speed is 60 to 62 mph so I do not push tire temperatures on the truck or the coach. I have put about 30,000 miles on the coach since 2011.

If you are going to be essentially parking your coach somewhere or driving short distance, you will be okay with the SRW truck.

If you are going to be traveling very much or have to be in a hurry driving at higher speeds or are planning to full-time, I would recommend checking the rating on your proposed truck. I know the newer models have higher ratings than my truck, but, you are still limited by tire ratings on the truck. If you haven't yet purchased your truck, I would strongly urged you consider going with the DRW (dual rear wheel) truck.

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You didn't mention the model year, but I am assuming 2012 - 2015, therefore the coach GVWR is probably 16,000 lbs or 16,500 lbs. If you are loaded to GVWR, most newer SRW trucks from any of the big 3 will meet this spec.

However, SRW trucks most likely will struggle with rear axle load, the GVW of the truck and also GCVWR (combined truck + coach).

We towed our 2013 36 FL with a 2012 F350 SRW and while we were legal, it took some very careful and minimalist packing.
- Coach GWV - we kept it down to 15,500 lbs, so had to travel with empty tanks
- Coach pin weight - 3,050 lbs, which loaded us to within 50 lbs of max weight on rear axle
- Truck GVW - with both of us, 2 dogs, full fuel + coach pin weight we were right at 11,500 lbs
- GCVWR - we were within a few lbs of 24,000

The 36RL is heavier than the 36FL at the front, with many owners reporting pin weights of 3,200 to 4,000 lbs. An 36RL, even with empty tanks, would most likely have overloaded the trucks GVW & rear axle load.

We towed, without issue, for about 3 years and 25,000 miles with a SRW, with many of those miles through the Rocky Mountains. However, I much prefer the greater comfort and stability of towing with a dually.

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Couple things to keep in mind.
#1 The dry weight of any rv you're looking at means absolutely NOTHING to you. That's the weight when it left the factory with no fluids, no batteries, no propane bottles & will NEVER weigh that again.
Base you weight calculations from the max GVW of the rv & 20-25% of that weight will be the pin weight.
#2 The max tow weight of the chosen truck means nothing also. Most will exceed the payload long before meeting the max towing weight.
Look at the yellow sticker on the drivers door post, not from any brochure or web site, to find tire max weights (of the OEM tires or sidewalls of replacements) & max payload of your chosen truck.
Remember truck payload includes pin weight, all passengers including pets, hitch, tools, anything loaded into or attached to the truck that it didn't leave the factory with. Once truck is loaded head to the scales & weigh it.
We traveled fulltime for 10+ years with a dually truck as our daily driver & although it was a pain to fit in a few areas we had no problems using it daily.

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AtlantaGuy wrote: Thank you all for the great information. I do not have a rig or a tow vehicle, and will be looking for my first truck later this year.

My thoughts at this point are to be in a RW 36RL and tow, most likely, with a Dodge 3500 SRW. From the posts that sounds like I may be pushing it.

My question, is there a site or link that spells all this info out? I'm finding out it's obviously not just as easy as, my truck can tow X pounds and the 5th is Y pounds.

Thanks for any assistance.

the limiting factor on all the single rear wheel trucks is the tires! most 350_3500 SRW trucks can carry 3500~3850lbs on one tire so the rear axel max weight is 7000 lbs or just over that. The lighter the truck the more payload you can put over the tires. I my case with a GM 3500 SRW I am 800lbs over the trucks rear axel rateing on the door tag , I have since upgraded the tires to 19.5 tires that carry over 4900lb each. My end game is to order a 2020 GMC 3500 DRW late this fall . I have air bags to help hold the extra weight but NONE of these measures I would suggest as a starting point. The RL 36 and RL38 loaded to travel will put any SRW truck right at MAX load without water and only light packing. We travel with the basement well equipped and I have a washer and drier and 30 gallons fresh water min when we go anyplace over a hour from home. you never know when you have to do a #1 or #2...…

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As hoosierguy and oriana said ...... we have a 36RL and started with a F350 SRW. Within eight months went to a Dually. Difference is night and day. And then later added the Focus Just for more fun. Lol

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